Apr 16, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Make /stuck bindable to a hotkey
As title says.
Having to hit enter and type in /stuck is a really absurd idea to get out of a rubberband. In the two or three seconds it takes to do that you are completely helpless. Make this command bindable to a hotkey.
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Apr 16, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36
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#2
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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/stuck has nothing to do with getting you out of a lag spike (which is what you are complaining about) but about a game model getting stuck in a wall or corner or behind a tree.
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Apr 16, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47
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#3
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Saegertown, PA
Guild: High by Nine [Bong]
Profession: Me/W
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i think he may be referring to ha, in particular relic runs, where if you are relic running you must continuously be spamming /stuck to make sure you have really gotten past the opponents bodyblocking, making it a hotkey would leave you able to run freely, while pressing that when you need to make sure instead of having to stop everything to type the command out
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Apr 16, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07
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#4
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Rubber banding actialy has nothing to do with lag from my experience. And I have this key macro'd to my g9 mouse's secondary button I use it so much. I definetely think they should provide this option so it doesn't require
a gaming mouse/keyboard to use. (smite runs are hell on my laptop)
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Apr 16, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10
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#5
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Krytan Explorer
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You can macro /stuck with a G15 keyboard.
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Apr 16, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27
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#6
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C2K
You can macro /stuck with a G15 keyboard.
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Not everyone has that option though, and it's realy not very hard to add another key bind in the menu. I personally have a G11 keyboard and g9 mouse on my desktop so I don't face that problem there, but if I don't have access to my office, I'm forced onto my laptop which lacks that macro capability.
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Apr 16, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41
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#7
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Underworld Spelunker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]
Profession: E/
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That would surely help sometimes.
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Apr 16, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18
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#8
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Black Widows of Death
Profession: W/Mo
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Get your self a programable keyboard /end problem. On a side note I really do not get stuck like I use to (fall into stairs etc..) I think they fixed alot of the problem areas. (bind a key so all heros/hench attack target to one key would be better or Spreadout you SOB Spreadout key IMO)
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Apr 18, 2008, 05:32 AM // 05:32
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: somewhere over the rainbow....
Profession: A/
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/signed
would make running drocks a hell of a lot easier
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Apr 20, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09
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#10
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
Get your self a programable keyboard /end problem. On a side note I really do not get stuck like I use to (fall into stairs etc..) I think they fixed alot of the problem areas. (bind a key so all heros/hench attack target to one key would be better or Spreadout you SOB Spreadout key IMO)
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Why don't you buy me one if that's your solution. I don't recall it saying on the GW system requirements box "Requires a programmable keyboard in order to play without being handicapped."
It's not exactly a complicated thing to implement... if the devs have time to devise concise descriptions and whatnot then why not just make a hotkey for /stuck.
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Apr 20, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47
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#11
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Honestly, I do NOT think a.net designed the /stuck feature to be used in such a manner to allow easier running, etc. /stuck is supposed to be used if you got caught in a wall/stairs/into the floor and can't move at all. You aren't supposed to be using /stuck once every 5 seconds, but like once every 5 hours. Abusing it is THE definition exploiting a game mechanic.
They aren't going to make exploiting it easier.
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Apr 20, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24
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#12
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canada
Guild: Guy In Real Life [GIRL]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Honestly, I do NOT think a.net designed the /stuck feature to be used in such a manner to allow easier running, etc. /stuck is supposed to be used if you got caught in a wall/stairs/into the floor and can't move at all. You aren't supposed to be using /stuck once every 5 seconds, but like once every 5 hours. Abusing it is THE definition exploiting a game mechanic.
They aren't going to make exploiting it easier.
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I would hardly say that trying to find out if you have rubberbanded to hell is abusing an exploit. Rubberbanding is quite a problem in PvP.
The classic example of this is relic runs. Halls has been lost when the relic runner kept running, blissfully unaware that he was body blocked by one guy. To say that we should want to avoid this is an exploit is just ludicrous.
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Apr 20, 2008, 10:25 AM // 10:25
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#13
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Pantheon of Shadows [dei]
Profession: W/A
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Get autohotkey (google it or something)
save the following as a text file:
$Z::
Send /stuck
And problem solved. And you can even make it any key/mouse button/key combination you want!
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Apr 20, 2008, 11:10 AM // 11:10
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#14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Honestly, I do NOT think a.net designed the /stuck feature to be used in such a manner to allow easier running, etc. /stuck is supposed to be used if you got caught in a wall/stairs/into the floor and can't move at all. You aren't supposed to be using /stuck once every 5 seconds, but like once every 5 hours. Abusing it is THE definition exploiting a game mechanic.
They aren't going to make exploiting it easier.
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How could you POSSIBLY exploit something that is implemented to FIX something. Have you ever done HA with a relic run or GvG with a flag run and you're being blocked by 239027837283 people but you don't notice? If you have to type /stuck all the time to find out, the chances of the opposite team getting morale is a LOT bigger.
The stupid rubberband bug shouldn't have been there in the first place.
/doublesigned
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Apr 20, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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#15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA
Profession: P/W
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/Signed.
Reasons stated above.
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Apr 20, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07
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#16
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aera
How could you POSSIBLY exploit something that is implemented to FIX something. Have you ever done HA with a relic run or GvG with a flag run and you're being blocked by 239027837283 people but you don't notice? If you have to type /stuck all the time to find out, the chances of the opposite team getting morale is a LOT bigger.
The stupid rubberband bug shouldn't have been there in the first place.
/doublesigned
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Yes... yes I have.
Like I said, a.net NEVER designed /stuck to be used in this manner. As it stands, it provides and unfair advantage to an opposing team.
And the "rubberband bug" is just called lag. It will happen with any online game. To say it "shouldn't have been there" is like saying GW should never have been on the internet in the first place. Lag and rubberbanding will always exist in an online game.
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Apr 21, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09
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#17
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: The Best Guild In The Game [Best]
Profession: N/
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Do you even play pvp? seriously if you dont know what you are talking about dont add in nonsense oppinions that are based off nothing.
rubberbanding sucks hard and getting desynced sucks, not just in tombs (although that is the most common occurance imo). getting stuck on retarded stuff has nothing to do with player skill and does not give the player an advantage. it gives an advantage to people who have better internet and computers who never get desynced.
and when you rubberband, im pretty sure there is a definitive difference between that and "lagging" as one your skills completly blink/u cant move, and the other you are still capable of seeing what is going on in the enviorment etc.
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Apr 21, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13
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#18
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Stop insulting me by saying I "don't play PvP" when I do. Yes, rubberbanind sucks, but its best to deal with it rather then whine about it.
Start addressing the issues. Does using /stuck give one team an unfair advantage over another? Yes or no?
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Apr 21, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18
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#19
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Grotto Attendant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Stop insulting me by saying I "don't play PvP" when I do. Yes, rubberbanind sucks, but its best to deal with it rather then whine about it.
Start addressing the issues. Does using /stuck give one team an unfair advantage over another? Yes or no?
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No. The other team can use it with the same effectiveness. Anet cant fix the stuck problems, so it'd be useful
/signed
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Apr 21, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40
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#20
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
No. The other team can use it with the same effectiveness. Anet cant fix the stuck problems, so it'd be useful
/signed
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That's like saying Sway (IWAY, spirit spamming, insert gimmick build here) isn't overpowered because the other team can run it too.
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